our screens flickered, and up came our business, and you got to realize, everybody in the world who trades with us, every bank in the world trades on our government securities market, couldn't believe we opened, and, you know, the people, men and women who survived and worked for this company are extraordinary people. and you know, i'm honored to be associated with them. >> howard, describe your feelings about the new 1 world trade center, tallest building in new york. >> look, i think it's important to rebuild. i just find it personally find it odd that they would name it 1 world trade center. frankly, i think if they named it any other name, i would think it was -- the memorial is beautiful, but i don't know why they don't change the name. that seems so odd to me since the building i worked in was never called the north tower, it was called 1 world trade center. >> you think they should change that or try to change that.